Sunday, January 11, 2015

Adventures in Genetic Genealogy: THOMAS FRAZIER (aka GEORGE THOMAS FRAZIER) & MARY PUGH on Chromosome 15




Five years ago, when I started this blog, my first post in 2010 was about my great X 5 grandfather, known to many as GEORGE THOMAS FRAZIER, but who only appears in all records that I have found so far as THOMAS FRAZIER. According to family oral histories, he married MARY PUGH, who I have never been able to trace, or verify in records.  Many (but not all) of their children & descendants became Quakers, and many descendants are still Quaker, to this day.

Since 2010, I have tested with all three companies offering autosomal DNA tests:  23andMe, Family Tree DNA, and Ancestry.com.   Descendants of THOMAS FRAZIER & MARY PUGH are highly represented in my list of DNA Relatives from all three companies.

This may be  because colonial era members of the FRAZIER family were literate, and later generations had both a strong oral and written tradition of family history. And the Quakers kept good, detailed records.  So many descendants of this couple have a clear idea of how they descend from them.

From the beginning, I have kept a personal database of all my DNA matches from all three companies. Only recently have I been able to pinpoint specific locations on my chromosomes that "belong" to specific ancestors.

On Chromosome 15, I have a group of 20 DNA Relatives who, for the most part, match both me, my brother & each other in a rather spectacular way.  Eight of these DNA Relatives (nine including me) are known descendants of THOMAS FRAZIER & MARY PUGH.  Those marked in green are from 23andMe and nearly all match each other on same location; those marked in purple are from Family Tree DNA & nearly all match each other on same location. For privacy's sake, I have slightly altered some of the names in this list:


--4th csn, 23andMe           Kelly                             Chromo 15     28000000     66000000  48.8 cM  8038
--brother, 23andMe/ftDNA  Betty's Bro                      Chromo 15      30000000   67000000    49.2cM  8279
--ftDNA                           Kay                                Chromo 15      31000000   54000000   29.62cM
--23andMe                       Anne                              Chromo 15   31000000   41000000   19.7cm 2382
--23andMe                      Randy                            Chromo  15  32000000  64000000  35 cM  6691                       
--23andMe                      Justin                              Chromo 15   32000000  64000000  34.9cM  6665
--ftDNA                       Paul                                Chromo 15    34000000  46000000  9.84cM
--23andMe                    Rita                                 Chromo 15   34000000  66000000  36.4cM  6846
--23andMe                  James                               Chromo 15   34000000  66000000  36.3cM  6787
--23andMe                   Marilyn                           Chromo 15   35000000    44000000   8.6cM   1439
--6th Csn, 23andMe         Charles                           Chromo 15    6000000   64000000  29.0 cM 5873
--ftDNA                       Ron                                 Chromo 15     36000000  56000000  20.21cM
-- 6th Csn23andMe/ftDNA  William                          Chromo 15     36000000   52000000  14.0 cM  2980
--6th csn, ftDNA              Stephen                          Chromo 15    38000000  50000000  23.2cM
--4th csn, 23andMe           Mary                               Chromo 15     39000000   65000000  27.0 cM  5594
--6th csn, ftDNA              Susan                              Chromo 15    41000000  64000000  25.76cM
--23andMe                    Delia                                Chromo  15   42000000  62000000  20.9 cM  4448
--23andMe                    Pat                                   Chromo  15   43000000  66000000  24.2 cM  5090
--ftDNA                      Kerry                               Chromo 15    45000000   54000000   8.9cM
--6th Csn, 23andMe          Jeff                                   Chromo 15   45000000   66000000   22.9cm 4785

(My formatting did not work perfectly, but you get the idea).

So it appears from the data so far that the area on Chromosome 15 from 28000000 to 67000000 relates to my great X 5 ancestors, THOMAS FRAZIER & MARY PUGH.  Which one was the actual source of the shared DNA? Hard to say--but so far no other matches have shown up that connect  only with MARY PUGH.

Genealogically speaking, here are how the known DNA Relatives from the list above are descended from THOMAS FRAZIER & MARY PUGH:

--4th cousin KELLY:  
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH, 
son ISAAC FRAZIER Jan 16, 1763 Orange Co NC & REBECCA SAFERIGHT; 
grandson HENRY FRAZER Aug 19, 1793 Guilford Co NC & MARY POLLY OTWELL

--BETTY'S BROTHER (and BETTY):  
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH, 
son ISAAC FRAZIER Jan 16, 1763 Orange Co NC & REBECCA SAFERIGHT; 
grandson HENRY FRAZER Aug 19, 1793 Guilford Co NC & MARY POLLY OTWELL

--6th cousin CHARLES:  
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH, 
son THOMAS FRAZIER Jr  b 1752 Orange Co NC & SARAH JOHNSON; 
grandson GEORGE THOMPSON about 1790 Guilford/Randolph Co NC & MARY POLLY MISMER

--6th cousin WILLIAM: 
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH, 
son THOMAS FRAZIER Jr b 1752 Orange Co NC & SARAH JOHNSON; 
grandson SAMUEL FRAZIER b 1788 Guilford/Randolph Co NC & SARAH SHAFFER


--6th cousin STEPHEN: 
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH
son GEORGE FRAZIER Sr b 1751 Orange Co NC & JANE GRIMES

grandson WILLIAM FRAZIER b 1787  Randolph Co NC & ZILPHA HAYES

--4th cousin MARY:
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH, 
son ISAAC FRAZIER Jan 16, 1763 Orange Co NC & REBECCA SAFERIGHT; 
grandson HENRY FRAZER Aug 19, 1793 Guilford Co NC & MARY POLLY OTWELL

--6th cousin SUSAN: 
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH
son GEORGE FRAZIER Sr b 1751 Orange Co NC & JANE GRIMES
granddaughter REBECCA FRAZIER b Oct 31, 1801 Randolph Co NC & JESSE PUGH

--6th cousin JEFF:
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH
son GEORGE FRAZIER Sr b 1751 Orange Co NC & JANE GRIMES
grandson GEORGE FRAZIER Jr May 6, 1777 Guilford Co NC & SARAH RUSSELL


I have not yet been able to establish contact with all members of this group of descendants;  some whom I have contacted have no idea how they are related to THOMAS FRAZIER & MARY PUGH. 

I do  have other DNA matches with the FRAZIER family on other Chromosomes.  But none are as clear or as numerous as on this portion of Chromosome 15. 

Have a great day!

Betty

© Betty Tartas  2015

Thursday, December 4, 2014

Did the Quaker JOHN HUTTON Born 1715 Ireland & His Wife ANN HARRY Attend Warrington Quaker Monthly Meeting In York Co Pennsylvania?

The answer to this question is....NO.

Albert Cook Myers, in his book "The Immigration of Irish Quakers into Pennsylvania 1682-1750" (published 1902),  indicated on page 331 that  JOHN HUTTON, son of immigrant Irish Quakers JOSEPH HUTTON & MARY MILLER, was " b 6 mo, 31, 1715, married 3 mo, 6, 1741 London Grove MM, ANN HARRY, and removed to Warrington, York Co Pennsylvania about 1753".

After carefully perusing the actual Warrington & other Quaker Monthly Meeting records, I now have records proving that this last bit is incorrect.  JOHN HUTTON b 1715 and wife ANN HARRY did not move to York Co Pennsylvania, and did not attend Warrington Monthly Meeting. It was in fact a different, younger couple named JOHN HUTTON Jr & wife ANN.

Albert Cook Myers based his assumption on records from New Garden Women's Meeting showing that ANN HUTTON requested a certificate of removal from New Garden MM in Chester Co PA to Warrington MM in York Co PA. The date of the request was Dec 30, 1752.  On same day, Dec 30, 1752, JOHN HUTTON Junior and his wife requested a certificate of removal from New Garden MM to Warrington MM in York Co PA. Their certificate was approved by New Garden MM in Jan of 1753.




The fact that the person requesting the certificate was named "JOHN HUTTON Junior" is extremely important.  JOHN HUTTON b 1715 who married ANN HARRY was the son of JOSEPH HUTTON & MARY MILLER, and was not considered "Junior".

Also important is the fact that the couple JOHN HUTTON Jr & ANN requested a certificate to Warrington MM for only themselves. The couple moving to Warrington MM did not have children in 1752.

JOHN HUTTON born 1715 & ANN HARRY were married 1741 New Garden MM Chester Co PA, and according to the information that I have, they had five children before 1752 (I have only been able to completely verify one of these children with records):

JAMES HUTTON b 1742 unverified
MARGARET HUTTON b 1743 unverified
ELEANOR HUTTON b 1744 unverified
MARY HUTTON b 1745 unverified
PHEBE HUTTON b 1746 see records below
ANN HUTTON b bf 1755, m WILLIAM REYNOLDS II of Guilford Co NC (Note: some researchers have cited evidence that ANN HUTTON who married WILLIAM REYNOLDS II was actually NANCY HOLTON, daughter of LEWIS HOLTON/HOTTON  of Guilford Co NC. I have only just started researching this line of inquiry. Likely this will be the subject of a future blogpost!)

I believe the following children have been incorrectly attributed to JOHN HUTTON born 1715 & ANN HARRY:

JOHN HUTTON II born 1752
ELIZABETH HUTTON b 1754 m JEREMIAH UNDERWOOD
HANNAH HUTTON b 1760 m JOHN MORTON in Menallen, York Co PA
ANN HUTTON b Aug 26, 1761 Warrington MM records, York Co PA
PHEBE HUTTON b abt 1662

All these younger children (except PHEBE) are listed in a later Certificate of Removal from Kennett MM in Chester Co PA to New Garden MM granted in 1771 to JOHN HUTTON & ANN his wife.

The assumption has always been that this was JOHN HUTTON b 1715 & ANN HARRY, and that these were their youngest children--especially PHEBE, who is not listed here. This is because ANN HARRY HUTTON's mother, ELIZABETH (UNDERWOOD) (HARRY) WEBSTER named her daughter "ANN HUTTON" and granddaughter "PHEBE HUTTON " in her 1766 Chester Co will.

But as it turns out, records show that the PHEBE HUTTON who was the granddaughter of ELIZABETH (UNDERWOOD) (HARRY) WEBSTER was actually born about 1746--not 1762.

In April of 1765, PHEBE HUTTON was granted a certificate of removal from Kennett MM to New Garden MM, where her grandmother ELIZABETH WEBSTER lived. ELIZABETH WEBSTER is actually named in the certificate record!!  

PHEBE would have had to have been of adult age to receive a certificate--at least 18, I believe. She was admitted to New Garden MM in September of 1765.





A few years later, in 1771, PHEBE HUTTON was dismissed  from London Grove Monthly Meeting for being married by a priest. Her married name was McFERSON/McFARSON.



So to sum up:  There were apparently two different JOHN & ANN HUTTON families in Chester Co PA in the 1700s.

The family that moved to Warrington, York Co PA in 1753 was JOHN HUTTON Junior & ANN. They apparently did not stay at Warrington, but removed back to Kennett MM sometime after 1761,  and from there back to New Garden MM in 1771.

The family of JOHN HUTTON b 1715 & ANN HARRY lived in Chester Co Pennsylvania, attending New Garden MM, and possibly Newark MM, Kennett MM & London Grove MM (more research to come, obviously!).

So who was JOHN HUTTON Junior?  I believe he was the son of Irish Quaker immigrant JOHN HUTTON Sr b about 1690 County Carlow, Ireland who married SARAH LIGHTFOOT at New Garden, Chester Co PA, and ended up near the end of his life at Fairfax MM at Broad Creek,  Loudon Co Virginia.  He did indeed have a son named JOHN HUTTON Jr b 1731 who was named in his 1772 will, and remained in Pennsylvania.

As always, this is a work in progress, and comments are appreciated.

Have a great day!

Betty

© Betty Tartas  2014