Sunday, January 11, 2015

Adventures in Genetic Genealogy: THOMAS FRAZIER (aka GEORGE THOMAS FRAZIER) & MARY PUGH on Chromosome 15




Five years ago, when I started this blog, my first post in 2010 was about my great X 5 grandfather, known to many as GEORGE THOMAS FRAZIER, but who only appears in all records that I have found so far as THOMAS FRAZIER. According to family oral histories, he married MARY PUGH, who I have never been able to trace, or verify in records.  Many (but not all) of their children & descendants became Quakers, and many descendants are still Quaker, to this day.

Since 2010, I have tested with all three companies offering autosomal DNA tests:  23andMe, Family Tree DNA, and Ancestry.com.   Descendants of THOMAS FRAZIER & MARY PUGH are highly represented in my list of DNA Relatives from all three companies.

This may be  because colonial era members of the FRAZIER family were literate, and later generations had both a strong oral and written tradition of family history. And the Quakers kept good, detailed records.  So many descendants of this couple have a clear idea of how they descend from them.

From the beginning, I have kept a personal database of all my DNA matches from all three companies. Only recently have I been able to pinpoint specific locations on my chromosomes that "belong" to specific ancestors.

On Chromosome 15, I have a group of 20 DNA Relatives who, for the most part, match both me, my brother & each other in a rather spectacular way.  Eight of these DNA Relatives (nine including me) are known descendants of THOMAS FRAZIER & MARY PUGH.  Those marked in green are from 23andMe and nearly all match each other on same location; those marked in purple are from Family Tree DNA & nearly all match each other on same location. For privacy's sake, I have slightly altered some of the names in this list:


--4th csn, 23andMe           Kelly                             Chromo 15     28000000     66000000  48.8 cM  8038
--brother, 23andMe/ftDNA  Betty's Bro                      Chromo 15      30000000   67000000    49.2cM  8279
--ftDNA                           Kay                                Chromo 15      31000000   54000000   29.62cM
--23andMe                       Anne                              Chromo 15   31000000   41000000   19.7cm 2382
--23andMe                      Randy                            Chromo  15  32000000  64000000  35 cM  6691                       
--23andMe                      Justin                              Chromo 15   32000000  64000000  34.9cM  6665
--ftDNA                       Paul                                Chromo 15    34000000  46000000  9.84cM
--23andMe                    Rita                                 Chromo 15   34000000  66000000  36.4cM  6846
--23andMe                  James                               Chromo 15   34000000  66000000  36.3cM  6787
--23andMe                   Marilyn                           Chromo 15   35000000    44000000   8.6cM   1439
--6th Csn, 23andMe         Charles                           Chromo 15    6000000   64000000  29.0 cM 5873
--ftDNA                       Ron                                 Chromo 15     36000000  56000000  20.21cM
-- 6th Csn23andMe/ftDNA  William                          Chromo 15     36000000   52000000  14.0 cM  2980
--6th csn, ftDNA              Stephen                          Chromo 15    38000000  50000000  23.2cM
--4th csn, 23andMe           Mary                               Chromo 15     39000000   65000000  27.0 cM  5594
--6th csn, ftDNA              Susan                              Chromo 15    41000000  64000000  25.76cM
--23andMe                    Delia                                Chromo  15   42000000  62000000  20.9 cM  4448
--23andMe                    Pat                                   Chromo  15   43000000  66000000  24.2 cM  5090
--ftDNA                      Kerry                               Chromo 15    45000000   54000000   8.9cM
--6th Csn, 23andMe          Jeff                                   Chromo 15   45000000   66000000   22.9cm 4785

(My formatting did not work perfectly, but you get the idea).

So it appears from the data so far that the area on Chromosome 15 from 28000000 to 67000000 relates to my great X 5 ancestors, THOMAS FRAZIER & MARY PUGH.  Which one was the actual source of the shared DNA? Hard to say--but so far no other matches have shown up that connect  only with MARY PUGH.

Genealogically speaking, here are how the known DNA Relatives from the list above are descended from THOMAS FRAZIER & MARY PUGH:

--4th cousin KELLY:  
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH, 
son ISAAC FRAZIER Jan 16, 1763 Orange Co NC & REBECCA SAFERIGHT; 
grandson HENRY FRAZER Aug 19, 1793 Guilford Co NC & MARY POLLY OTWELL

--BETTY'S BROTHER (and BETTY):  
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH, 
son ISAAC FRAZIER Jan 16, 1763 Orange Co NC & REBECCA SAFERIGHT; 
grandson HENRY FRAZER Aug 19, 1793 Guilford Co NC & MARY POLLY OTWELL

--6th cousin CHARLES:  
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH, 
son THOMAS FRAZIER Jr  b 1752 Orange Co NC & SARAH JOHNSON; 
grandson GEORGE THOMPSON about 1790 Guilford/Randolph Co NC & MARY POLLY MISMER

--6th cousin WILLIAM: 
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH, 
son THOMAS FRAZIER Jr b 1752 Orange Co NC & SARAH JOHNSON; 
grandson SAMUEL FRAZIER b 1788 Guilford/Randolph Co NC & SARAH SHAFFER


--6th cousin STEPHEN: 
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH
son GEORGE FRAZIER Sr b 1751 Orange Co NC & JANE GRIMES

grandson WILLIAM FRAZIER b 1787  Randolph Co NC & ZILPHA HAYES

--4th cousin MARY:
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH, 
son ISAAC FRAZIER Jan 16, 1763 Orange Co NC & REBECCA SAFERIGHT; 
grandson HENRY FRAZER Aug 19, 1793 Guilford Co NC & MARY POLLY OTWELL

--6th cousin SUSAN: 
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH
son GEORGE FRAZIER Sr b 1751 Orange Co NC & JANE GRIMES
granddaughter REBECCA FRAZIER b Oct 31, 1801 Randolph Co NC & JESSE PUGH

--6th cousin JEFF:
THOMAS FRAZIER b 1725 d aft 1790 Randolph Co NC & MARY PUGH
son GEORGE FRAZIER Sr b 1751 Orange Co NC & JANE GRIMES
grandson GEORGE FRAZIER Jr May 6, 1777 Guilford Co NC & SARAH RUSSELL


I have not yet been able to establish contact with all members of this group of descendants;  some whom I have contacted have no idea how they are related to THOMAS FRAZIER & MARY PUGH. 

I do  have other DNA matches with the FRAZIER family on other Chromosomes.  But none are as clear or as numerous as on this portion of Chromosome 15. 

Have a great day!

Betty

© Betty Tartas  2015

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

Betty, I am related to aka George Thomas Frazier by way of Thomas N., David, John C., Joseph H.B, and then Clara Jane Frazier who married William A. Stidfole.

I found something interesting on the 1790 Federal Census...

Frasher, Francis....1....3....1
Frasher, Thomas.....2....2....2
Frasher, George.....2....6....4

Could this be a way through our brick wall?

I too have my dna on 23andme if you would like to check it out. Yvonne J. LaRusso

I would like to discuss what I found and see if we have a dna match.

My email is larusso@att.net. I don't use my google account much, so send any response to my .net account.

Happy hunting,
Yvonne